1 00:00:06,630 --> 00:00:03,830 what's up everybody um sorry about the 2 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,640 weird timing today um 3 00:00:10,870 --> 00:00:09,040 working with one car these days so um 4 00:00:12,870 --> 00:00:10,880 helping my wife out and she's helping me 5 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:12,880 with rides and such so that might screw 6 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:15,280 up the schedule once in a while but um i 7 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,440 still intend to be here as much as 8 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:19,680 possible 9 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:21,840 um 10 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:25,119 i appreciate you guys hanging out with 11 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:30,470 um 12 00:00:34,229 --> 00:00:33,280 so thanks thanks for being here 13 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:34,239 scott 14 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:35,920 appreciate you 15 00:00:40,229 --> 00:00:38,239 good to see you live again yeah 16 00:00:41,830 --> 00:00:40,239 um 17 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:41,840 bob 18 00:00:47,430 --> 00:00:46,399 ns act national security act 1947 19 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:47,440 um 20 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:50,160 ben what's happening how you doing good 21 00:00:54,869 --> 00:00:51,440 to see you 22 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,879 uh spaghetti you can't join today 23 00:00:58,709 --> 00:00:56,320 that's too bad 24 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:58,719 tomorrow actually we have a pretty 25 00:01:02,790 --> 00:01:01,120 packed day tomorrow we have 26 00:01:04,229 --> 00:01:02,800 uh quantum witch 27 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:04,239 coming on she's gonna help me kind of 28 00:01:07,910 --> 00:01:06,159 with some dreams i've had and such so 29 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:07,920 that'll be very interesting 30 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:08,640 uh 31 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:10,799 very great person 32 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:14,560 and we're also gonna have i just added 33 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:18,320 to tomorrow a half hour with uh joe ufo 34 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:20,240 joe he's gonna come on here and we're 35 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,119 gonna talk about some two ufo crashes 36 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:25,119 that he just learned about 37 00:01:30,149 --> 00:01:27,680 and anything else that we want to talk 38 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:30,159 about for a half hour then after that uh 39 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:34,320 we're gonna have project unity 40 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:36,079 um so 41 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:37,759 it's gonna be a really 42 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:39,920 busy day tomorrow but i'm excited about 43 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:42,079 that 44 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:50,149 it is cold here in wisconsin um we're in 45 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:52,000 the 50s so 46 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:54,960 that sucks 47 00:01:58,709 --> 00:01:57,680 um but it is what it is i guess 48 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,719 today 49 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,719 you know i was a little 50 00:02:04,389 --> 00:02:02,640 did not know what 51 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:04,399 i wanted to talk about 52 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:05,840 um today 53 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:07,520 and so i was like well let's just go 54 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:10,080 through some of the old stuff i have um 55 00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:11,680 see what's there 56 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:13,200 you know and then move on i could throw 57 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:14,959 it out to make my computer a little bit 58 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,840 lighter 59 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,520 all that fun stuff 60 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:20,239 um but then of course this always 61 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:22,160 happens as i go through them i find 62 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:23,280 something that 63 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:25,440 is really interesting to me 64 00:02:33,110 --> 00:02:29,920 and this time it is the report on 65 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:33,120 report on the ufo wave of 1947. 66 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:36,239 um mr dr james mcdonald wrote the 67 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:37,760 introduction 68 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,519 and we all 69 00:02:42,050 --> 00:02:41,760 should know of him by now right 70 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:42,060 so 71 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:44,160 [Music] 72 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:46,080 yeah 73 00:03:05,100 --> 00:02:54,480 want to back we are going to go over 74 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:21,130 [Music] 75 00:03:53,260 --> 00:03:37,670 so 76 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:56,309 [Applause] 77 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,439 okay yeah i just love that 78 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:01,200 the audience applause 79 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:02,959 it's pretty awesome 80 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:05,920 um so yeah this is the paper that was 81 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:08,080 written um it's kind of long actually 82 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:09,920 it's about 180 some pages so i'm going 83 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:12,159 to read it word for word for you right 84 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:13,120 now 85 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:14,640 it'll take 86 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:16,799 i'm not a fast reader either so it may 87 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:19,600 take three four or five it may take us 88 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:21,519 till the night time so 89 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:24,320 uh buckle up get some popcorn 90 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:27,280 i'm just i'm kidding by the way 91 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:28,479 um 92 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:30,000 it's something i used to do in sales i 93 00:04:33,749 --> 00:04:31,840 would go to like selling a commercial 94 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,759 roof like a big flat roof and i would go 95 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:35,440 into the presentation 96 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:38,400 and we had these big thick books 97 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:40,160 that were just 98 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:41,600 stupid like 99 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:43,680 like who's gonna read that whole thing 100 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:45,759 especially at a presentation 101 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:47,280 if they see that the customer they're 102 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:49,199 like oh god please don't 103 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:50,400 so 104 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:51,840 what i would do 105 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:53,680 is bring out the big booklet then i 106 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:56,400 would say all right now i have a book on 107 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:57,199 tape 108 00:05:01,749 --> 00:04:59,199 for this presentation i'm gonna bring 109 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:01,759 out a tape player and we're gonna listen 110 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:04,639 to it and jot your questions down as we 111 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:05,680 go 112 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:07,440 and they would usually be 113 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:08,840 uh 114 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:12,240 no like i'm just kidding 115 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:14,000 oh you used to do flat roofing yourself 116 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:16,080 i didn't do the flat roofing thankfully 117 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:18,320 the guys who do man bless their hearts 118 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:21,199 that is not easy work that's for sure um 119 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:23,840 i was trained and and know how to do it 120 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:30,150 but anyways 121 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:30,960 so 122 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:34,880 scroll through this 123 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:37,199 actually i'm not going to distract you 124 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:40,160 by showing it to you i'm just going to 125 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:42,960 read the highlights a couple things they 126 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:44,800 do in here is marked all the different 127 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:47,680 kinds of witnesses first of all right 128 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:49,919 everyone from 129 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:52,880 engineers technicians public officials 130 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,440 uh airline military and private pilots 131 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,600 doctors newsmen editors 132 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:00,000 navy marine corps coast guard personnel 133 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,830 and this is just 1947. 134 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:10,230 there's empirical evidence animal 135 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:12,960 reactions fragments ashes traces 136 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:16,240 electromagnetic effects photographs 137 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:17,680 although we know what the photographs 138 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:19,120 look like back then 139 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:21,520 which are just basically 140 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:24,400 uh black and white and if we can argue 141 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:27,039 about the new videos that come out like 142 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:28,800 the pyramid ones i don't think these 143 00:06:32,710 --> 00:06:30,400 black and white photos will do much for 144 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:32,720 us but 145 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:35,520 you know that's how it goes um quickly 146 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:38,000 though here is a good 147 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:39,680 page to start with 148 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:42,080 uh the quote here is pretty good as well 149 00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:43,840 on the left and the right is a chart 150 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:46,840 illustrating the number of cases daily 151 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:50,639 um this looks like june 15th to july 152 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:52,479 15th 153 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:54,479 the little harlots would caper and 154 00:06:58,230 --> 00:06:56,479 freaks will distract attention and the 155 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,240 clowns will break the rhythm of the hole 156 00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:00,240 with their buffooneries 157 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:01,680 but the 158 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,880 solidity of the procession as a whole 159 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:06,720 the impressiveness of things that pass 160 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:09,280 and pass and keep on and keep on and 161 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:10,880 keep on coming 162 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:12,720 the irresistibleness of things that need 163 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:14,080 to threaten or 164 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,400 jeer nor defy i don't know if i said 165 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:18,319 that right but arrange themselves in 166 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:20,960 mass formations that pass and pass and 167 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:24,000 keep on passing so by the damned 168 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:27,039 i mean the excluded 169 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:29,360 here's the chart look at that 170 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:31,280 looks 171 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:34,639 pretty buzzing july 7th maybe even 172 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:36,080 well look at that 173 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:38,080 it's like the highest day you know it's 174 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:39,919 interesting in this report too because 175 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:41,680 you know there are hoaxes that come 176 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:43,440 along with this stuff and when i was 177 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:49,350 this report i've seen 178 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:52,319 of a ufo sighting on july 7th 179 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,160 the same day as roswell 180 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:56,960 1948 but in milwaukee wisconsin where 181 00:08:01,670 --> 00:07:59,919 i'm from um 182 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:01,680 and i'm glad they didn't include that in 183 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:03,280 this report because 184 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:05,599 that wound up being a hoax it was like a 185 00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:08,160 big saw blade or something 186 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:13,199 so that to me says that this report is 187 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:14,090 pretty serious 188 00:08:17,189 --> 00:08:15,840 [Laughter] 189 00:08:18,749 --> 00:08:17,199 um 190 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:18,759 now this was 191 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:22,479 1967 i believe so if i read some of this 192 00:08:26,950 --> 00:08:24,560 um just be aware of that that the years 193 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:26,960 are kind of different um so i like the 194 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:29,440 introduction that mr mcdonald wrote 195 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:31,360 some of my favorite parts here 196 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:33,680 i quote just over 20 years ago the 197 00:08:38,709 --> 00:08:36,399 problem of ufos burst into the public 198 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:38,719 attention in a single two-week period in 199 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:41,760 the summer of 1947 the ufo problem was 200 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:43,599 laid in confusing disorder before the 201 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:45,360 american public by means of banner 202 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:49,680 headlines and wire stories and profusion 203 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:51,680 in retrospect it seems clear that the 204 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:54,000 visible record of 1947 emergence of the 205 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:57,040 ufo problem is primarily a journalistic 206 00:09:00,470 --> 00:08:58,080 record 207 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:00,480 although scientists the military and few 208 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:02,320 governmental spokesman took minor parts 209 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:04,800 in the dramatic entry of ufos onto the 210 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:07,200 modern scene newspapermen wrote and 211 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:09,279 delivered the key lines 212 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:12,320 that made the journalists role in drama 213 00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:14,800 in the drama pertinent 214 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:23,269 he also says as i was to realize that 215 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:24,800 already in the first two weeks after 216 00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:26,720 kenneth arnold's mount rainier report of 217 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:29,519 june 24 1947 the press reports of other 218 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:30,959 american sightings of highly 219 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:33,440 unconventional aerial objects numbered 220 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:35,200 not the dozen or so 221 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:38,240 that most of us might recall 222 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:43,910 and you know 223 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:49,990 that hits the nail right on the head 224 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:51,920 because as if you're with me on this 225 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,080 show we've already gone through all the 226 00:09:58,310 --> 00:09:56,880 sightings of well this is 48 so it's a 227 00:10:01,509 --> 00:09:58,320 year after this 228 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:01,519 but over los alamos labs sandia base 229 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:02,959 laboratory 230 00:10:10,870 --> 00:10:08,790 and a lot of others 231 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:10,880 edwards air force base all over the 232 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:11,760 place 233 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:13,600 and we don't hear about those we just 234 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:15,200 hear 235 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:16,880 really about 236 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:20,160 you know like he said a handful of cases 237 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:21,920 um when i think 238 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:24,399 that may 239 00:10:27,190 --> 00:10:25,279 does 240 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:27,200 take away from 241 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:37,350 and then we have um 242 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:39,360 you know he calls them unidentified 243 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:42,399 objects of craft like nature if and this 244 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:45,519 quote right here still rings true today 245 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:47,680 and it's amazing 246 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:49,760 that it still rings true today because 247 00:10:54,150 --> 00:10:51,440 it makes you think what the hell have we 248 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:54,160 been doing for this long right 249 00:11:00,069 --> 00:10:56,800 quote if only science had not been so 250 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:00,079 casual back in 1947 so ready to believe 251 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:03,279 what so many feature writers and ill 252 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:05,360 informed official spokesman had to say 253 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:07,440 about ufos we might today have an 254 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:09,600 abundance of meter readings with which 255 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:11,040 to work 256 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:14,000 but 1947 began at two decade which is 257 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:18,230 eight 258 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:21,120 a period of misinformation so we are 259 00:11:26,829 --> 00:11:24,240 still hardly at the start of an adequate 260 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:26,839 scientific examination of 261 00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:30,800 ufos has that changed 262 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:35,750 six decades 263 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,279 well let's see 67 77 87 97 264 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:41,120 wow six decades after this was written 265 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:43,600 are we still are we finally doing 266 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:44,720 something 267 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:47,040 are we 268 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:50,160 conducting an adequate scientific 269 00:12:06,949 --> 00:12:02,150 i hope so 270 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:06,959 and then it kind of talks about um 271 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:09,920 something i learned up from bob actually 272 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:13,120 how the army was doing this stuff and 273 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:15,760 then it was the air force naturally when 274 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:17,600 the air force actually became the air 275 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:18,880 force 276 00:12:23,269 --> 00:12:20,800 um around then 277 00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:23,279 there was project sign all that stuff it 278 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:24,880 seemed like that was actually a good 279 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:27,040 project uh but 280 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:32,870 in the end it seems like they just tried 281 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:33,760 to 282 00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:35,920 the military government politicians 283 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:40,389 tamp this down to clear up their 284 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:42,560 communication lines and 285 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:44,800 possible emergencies whatever that's 286 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:50,150 you know so like if there is a imminent 287 00:12:54,949 --> 00:12:52,720 attack coming they 288 00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:54,959 may not be able to take that call 289 00:12:59,030 --> 00:12:56,880 because the lines would be all clogged 290 00:13:01,030 --> 00:12:59,040 up with ufo calls 291 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:01,040 pretty stupid 292 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:04,240 let's not deal with the ufos right 293 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:05,440 let's just 294 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:07,360 take the calls and uh 295 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:09,200 or let's just uh 296 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:10,800 debunk them and hope people don't call 297 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:17,110 um because we as we all know these 298 00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:18,880 things did not 299 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:23,990 the public and many officials assume 300 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:25,760 that flying saucers were merely some 301 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:28,320 sort of tran transitory phenomenon and 302 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:30,880 would soon go away while interest aside 303 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:33,040 at the time of the sightings it died out 304 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:35,680 not long after the wave had subsided and 305 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:37,600 was not revitalized until the following 306 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:38,480 year 307 00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:43,360 uh when a new flurry of reports were 308 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:46,079 made and we've gone over a lot of those 309 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:53,350 um the source is used for this paper uh 310 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:55,440 blue book it right patterson air force 311 00:14:00,629 --> 00:13:59,910 all sorts of stuff i guess 312 00:14:07,509 --> 00:14:00,639 so 313 00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:07,519 it talks about the importance of kevin 314 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:09,199 arnold sighting right 315 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:14,310 it talks about what if he had decided 316 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:16,560 not to assist in the search for the c 317 00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:19,040 46 marine transport that crashed on the 318 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:21,279 slopes of mount rainier the introduction 319 00:14:30,629 --> 00:14:23,839 to modern period of ufo activity would 320 00:14:34,069 --> 00:14:32,629 this is interesting too there were no 321 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:34,079 attitudes 322 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:41,829 there were no preconceptions no 323 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:44,160 misconceptions 324 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:45,839 no policies 325 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,320 by either press or public 326 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:50,399 or by an official by any official 327 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:52,160 agencies and certainly no pattern 328 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:54,240 existed concerning the phenomenon by 329 00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:55,279 which 330 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:58,720 comparisons might be made 331 00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:00,880 a few world war ii veterans who had 332 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:02,720 observed foo fighters 333 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:04,880 shout out to graeme rendell 334 00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:06,800 over germany and in the south pacific 335 00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:08,880 during the war were now reminded of 336 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:10,800 those earlier incidents by the 337 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:20,230 um 338 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:22,240 i'm not sure ben that's that's a good 339 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,199 question i'm not really sure 340 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:28,079 i will look into it though 341 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:30,880 it's a big report it there there's still 342 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:32,800 a lot in here so it 343 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:34,320 very well could be 344 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:36,880 here's some maps case maps 345 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:38,560 pretty cool 346 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,959 i like this report in this paper because 347 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:42,720 a lot of the stuff i've been looking for 348 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:44,240 myself 349 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,480 has 350 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:48,800 i've found in here you know like maps 351 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:51,440 and lists of these sightings so 352 00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:56,870 flying saucers were 353 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:58,959 about as bizarre and experienced as one 354 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,800 could imagine 355 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:02,399 so it is therefore not surprising to 356 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,440 find 357 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:05,440 that by the end of june opinions and 358 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:08,000 explanations as well as flying saucer 359 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:09,440 reports 360 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:22,710 one of the most original and imaginative 361 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,360 explanations came the same day june 28th 362 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:27,519 from the operator of a 363 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:28,720 bottle capping plant in everett 364 00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:30,399 washington and was carried widely by the 365 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:32,000 wire services 366 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:33,680 offered with appearance seriousness the 367 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:35,920 solution proposed that the little 368 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:37,839 aluminum disks 369 00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:40,399 inside the bottle caps were set free 370 00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,639 when the bottle caps were melted down 371 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:44,399 rose up the chimneys on columns of hot 372 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:47,040 air and were then carried off by the 373 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:48,000 winds 374 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:50,880 to be reported as blankets by numerous 375 00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:52,720 people throughout the country 376 00:17:03,269 --> 00:16:59,240 i'm not buying that one 377 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:08,230 oh man that's great 378 00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:09,429 so 379 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:12,319 and then it goes to just chronicle all 380 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:15,120 the balls that have been dropped then 381 00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:16,079 right 382 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:18,720 major paul gaynor was quoted as saying 383 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,480 that a preliminary investigation of 384 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,799 reports had dropped because of a lack of 385 00:17:26,549 --> 00:17:24,720 concrete evidence 386 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:26,559 you know when is the person going to be 387 00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:28,160 respected enough 388 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:29,039 to 389 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:33,280 witness right 390 00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:34,880 i understand that that comes with people 391 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,640 that take advantage of it but if we let 392 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:39,840 one bad apple spoil the bunch every time 393 00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:43,200 we're never gonna have any apples 394 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,039 you know 395 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:47,440 so instead of being lazy and discounting 396 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:48,799 everyone 397 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,360 why don't you put in the work 398 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:53,280 and weed out the ones 399 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:57,750 you know 400 00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:59,679 it's amazing to me 401 00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:02,000 at this point 402 00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:04,400 that we don't listen to someone like 403 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:07,039 jacquez vale more 404 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:08,080 right 405 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:09,760 he 406 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:12,960 genius 407 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:15,760 of this field 408 00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:17,679 and goddammit i wish it didn't take so 409 00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:19,520 long for me to know that but here i am 410 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:21,440 i'm reading 411 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:24,160 invisible college 412 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:26,400 and if you have not read it you need to 413 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:29,200 read it because as an experiencer 414 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:30,960 he is nailing 415 00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:38,230 and what i mean by that is 416 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:40,840 it's not really 417 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:44,480 nailable there's so many 418 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,240 different complexities to this 419 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:48,880 phenomenon that you can't simply wrap it 420 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:52,160 up neatly in a box as he says 421 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,520 and say here it is here's your 422 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:56,000 explanation that's not how it works and 423 00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:58,160 it's funny that almost all these 424 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:00,480 experiencers or witnesses including 425 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,669 it almost seems like everybody has 426 00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:07,440 something different 427 00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:09,280 you know 428 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:12,799 every experience has something unique 429 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:17,909 what does that mean 430 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:20,960 the one thing i think of is as people 431 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:24,400 we are all unique to ourselves 432 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:26,160 so maybe there's something to that i 433 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:32,230 but i can tell you that the 434 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,640 psychological aspect if not taken into 435 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:35,760 account 436 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,310 could be considered a mute point 437 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:46,710 because it is the psychological aspect 438 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:47,919 that is so 439 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:55,909 you know for those of you who don't 440 00:20:03,510 --> 00:19:58,720 watch fox news or kennedy or whatever 441 00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:04,830 and she 442 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:06,400 was 443 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,280 she 444 00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:09,120 actually took on the attitude of a lot 445 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:11,039 of people on ufo twitter which i'm 446 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,520 curious if she's watches and monitors 447 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:15,360 that and tries to 448 00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:18,080 you know mimic that 449 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:18,840 but 450 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,400 she 451 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:22,320 was basically like okay enough's enough 452 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:25,200 give me something give me something 453 00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:26,799 he would dance around the bush you go no 454 00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:28,559 no no it's something give me that's 455 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:29,919 enough 456 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:35,590 she got an admission from him that 457 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:42,310 not all the time but 458 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:44,640 um from these encounters from these 459 00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:49,909 now 460 00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:57,430 guy ran ufo program that the pentagon 461 00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:03,350 says that a 462 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,799 these things are real and i don't just 463 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,799 mean okay there's an identified flying 464 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:08,480 object that could be anything it's real 465 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:09,840 blah blah 466 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,440 you know what i'm talking about they're 467 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:15,750 and they can 468 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,640 cause biological effects 469 00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:21,280 and he said this 470 00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:28,390 now 471 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:29,919 i don't think he was gonna say that if 472 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,270 i can't really say 473 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:39,600 but i think his ego got in there and she 474 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,840 was slamming on it and he couldn't deal 475 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,120 with that 476 00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:45,520 so he gave her something 477 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,710 so 478 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,080 yeah 479 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,080 the effect on all these back to the 480 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,679 document the effect on all these 481 00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:10,000 celestial displays was extraordinary the 482 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,000 next day july 5th newspapers all over 483 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:14,159 the country gave front page banner 484 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,510 another authority and i'm just reading 485 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:28,000 ex excerpts here because we can't go 486 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,520 through it all obviously but these are 487 00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:32,000 important ones 488 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,760 another authority on secret government 489 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,600 devices 490 00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,120 was national commander-in-chief the 491 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,039 veterans of foreign wars lewis east star 492 00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:41,280 of portland oregon ap reports that in 493 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,159 columbus on july 5th in a speech to ohio 494 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,480 veteran members a star stated that he 495 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,480 was momentarily 496 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:50,400 expecting word from washington 497 00:23:05,510 --> 00:22:57,110 concerning the fleets of flag saucers 498 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:08,549 too little is being told to the people 499 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:13,909 in detroit 500 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,720 ins quoted another expert 501 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,880 this one unidentified meteorologist who 502 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:20,880 proposed that ufos were from mars not 503 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:23,440 spaceships but merely signals with free 504 00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,799 willing logic he asked why should it not 505 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,039 be as logical for mars 506 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:32,400 as to try to contact earth as for earth 507 00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,789 that's beautiful 508 00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,159 red 509 00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:42,159 and that's always 510 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,279 a point to be made 511 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,039 why is it so hard to believe that 512 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,159 something could be visiting here 513 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:52,400 we're flying helicopters on other 514 00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,149 so 515 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,159 i guess it's just the egocentric that 516 00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,480 think it's not possible for other things 517 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,000 to come here because we're the only 518 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:06,400 special ones that are able to do such a 519 00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:14,950 and it's hard to fathom the entire size 520 00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:17,440 of the universe from just being on this 521 00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:20,159 planet being a speck of dust as we are 522 00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:25,190 ever expanding 523 00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:33,190 so much so that the galaxy's closest to 524 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:37,350 at some point the future will be too far 525 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:46,789 and we'll be alone 526 00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,950 so why can't something come here why 527 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,320 can't something 528 00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:53,200 from that gigantic universe 529 00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,510 we're flawed we screw up every day 530 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,039 every day 531 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,440 that's why the catchphrase 532 00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:09,600 well i'm human right 533 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,919 is a catchphrase 534 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:13,520 because we're flawed and we make 535 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:14,400 mistakes 536 00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:18,159 and still find our way on mars and fly a 537 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:24,230 why can't something come here that may 538 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:37,110 sorry i'm on a roll today i'm not 539 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:38,130 looking at the comments 540 00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,360 [Laughter] 541 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,120 um 542 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,039 and people give out all sorts of 543 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,960 different explanations to try to throw 544 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,960 water on this which is just ridiculous 545 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,360 like the psychological aspect there may 546 00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:54,240 be some mass psychological explanation 547 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:56,080 to the sudden rash of flier saucer 548 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,360 reports 549 00:26:03,430 --> 00:25:59,200 what would that be 550 00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,390 then 551 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,039 the 40s and now 552 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:09,039 okay so you can't blame it on the diet 553 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,070 any of that stuff 554 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:21,510 because it's 555 00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:30,149 and i don't see flying saucers 556 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:32,000 what i've seen they have been flying 557 00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,440 saucers 558 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,799 i don't think other people see him 559 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:36,320 either 560 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:43,750 but maybe they are 561 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,669 right 562 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,400 i think about my encounter and 563 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,320 thankfully spaghetti kind of put two and 564 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,200 two together for me is like oh you could 565 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,640 you know that's where you saw the things 566 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:04,799 you could actually like measure them the 567 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,000 yeah so guess what guess how close 568 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:10,000 that's what i did guess how close 569 00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:16,310 the first one that was above 570 00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,000 30 feet over my head 571 00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:25,190 a few days later 572 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,230 you know 573 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:37,909 i don't know what kind of psychological 574 00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:40,240 thing would would do that 575 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:41,919 you know and was i stressed at the time 576 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,120 sure i was 577 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:45,440 yes definitely 578 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,919 but i've been more stressed a lot more 579 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:49,840 stressed before 580 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:56,149 you know 581 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,760 and in reading invisible college in 582 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,200 jacques valley and he goes to the 583 00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:00,880 different cases a lot of people are 584 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,440 stressed like he talks about a couple 585 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,360 who they both lost their jobs and they 586 00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,279 were driving home and they had the 587 00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,039 encounter 588 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,120 so what does that mean is it a signal 589 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,960 perhaps from something telling you hey 590 00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:15,520 don't get too down in the dumps because 591 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,990 or to this world 592 00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:29,269 he talks about 593 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,799 you know i know i'm going back and forth 594 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:32,399 between the book and this paper i'm 595 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:33,279 sorry 596 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:36,159 but the book is just so um beautiful to 597 00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:45,990 you know 598 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,350 you just have to read it invisible 599 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:50,320 college and i mean we should 600 00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:53,360 we should be going past this physical 601 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,520 stuff does it exist what's give me a 602 00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,120 report 603 00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,000 90 days 180 days who gives a if 604 00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:01,679 you're not tackling the psychological 605 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:10,950 i don't even know if i'm that interested 606 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,630 because that's the part of this that i 607 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,240 have to deal with 608 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:18,789 and so many other people i don't have to 609 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:27,350 being there with occupants in it or not 610 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:31,440 i have to deal with the psychology of it 611 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,549 so be nice if someone could study that 612 00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:43,200 aspect 613 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:45,919 and god bless mr valet 614 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:48,720 and i'm sure others but i am green 615 00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:50,080 i have 616 00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,840 and they've published books on 617 00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,760 it and i'm thankful that i can read it 618 00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:58,080 because in his book invisible college is 619 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,760 the first time i've heard 620 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,760 of an experiencer 621 00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,520 uh having 622 00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,279 a dream 623 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:09,120 you know that came true around the 624 00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,310 and i haven't heard that anywhere else 625 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,720 so if you think i'm gonna read that book 626 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,360 and see that 627 00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,919 and dismiss it for the physical aspect 628 00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:28,559 of this stuff the nuts and bolts you're 629 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:37,029 it's too powerful for me personally 630 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,269 it's 631 00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,630 you know he talks about how these people 632 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,399 have encounters and it changes the whole 633 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,320 trajectory of their life some people 634 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:02,640 actually feel as if they're on a mission 635 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:07,669 who had his experience and then had 636 00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,880 psychic 637 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:10,399 powers 638 00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:15,269 and other people have too in 639 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:27,909 it's interesting 640 00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:32,389 back to the paper 641 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:33,909 judging from the statements such as 642 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,120 these the spirit of scientific inquiry 643 00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,000 had no relevance when it came to ufos 644 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:42,159 as far as the scientific fraternity 645 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:43,840 itself was concerned in 20 years the 646 00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,279 situation remains much the same 647 00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,120 to the discredit of the american 648 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,919 scientific community and here we are 649 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:54,080 avilob what does he say 650 00:32:03,509 --> 00:31:59,830 he 651 00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:03,519 directly talks crap to scientists 652 00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,960 and says get your head out of your ass 653 00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:07,279 and look at this thing 654 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,200 don't be too cool for school don't worry 655 00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,960 about what your colleagues think of you 656 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:12,320 do you want to make history or do you 657 00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,269 you know 658 00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,279 and those are some of the people that 659 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:21,039 that kind of live among us right there's 660 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:22,799 those who just want a job and those who 661 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:28,389 well we need some scientists that want 662 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,590 it's been 80 years 663 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:35,760 does anyone 664 00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,789 and i know there's different 665 00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,960 kinds of scientists and different things 666 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:51,200 to study and it's a blanket term and i 667 00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:56,389 but i'm talking about the scientists 668 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:06,389 dr james mcdonald killed himself 669 00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:10,789 basically for this 670 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,310 so if you're a scientist and 671 00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,440 you can't empathize with that or even 672 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,000 look into it 673 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:22,159 quit your job we don't need that kind of 674 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:29,350 this world needs people with 675 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,880 a passion and a mission 676 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:35,039 and if placed here 677 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:53,509 let me look at uh 678 00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,549 some of your comments here 679 00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:58,960 i'm so sorry i'm sorry scott i didn't 680 00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,960 mean to make you sad 681 00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:02,559 you know it's not 682 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:04,080 supposed to be a sad thing it's supposed 683 00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:07,200 to be 684 00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,240 human 685 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,000 right 686 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:11,760 these are the things that experiences 687 00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,750 thinking about why the hell this 688 00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,520 happened 689 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,359 to me 690 00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:23,040 and not that person 691 00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:26,480 or why doesn't it keep happening 692 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:35,669 what was it about that moment 693 00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,389 and what do i need to learn 694 00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:41,040 what am i not learning 695 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:43,280 what do i need to do 696 00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,389 every day 697 00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:52,159 those thoughts come into my head every 698 00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:00,630 and i don't know what the answer is i 699 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,150 i feel like whatever the answer is has 700 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:08,000 to be in 701 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:08,880 me 702 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:14,630 if i just go in this for selfish 703 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:17,760 purposes i'm gonna get a selfish answer 704 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:35,190 what pops in my head in moments of quiet 705 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:37,040 uh that's 706 00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:39,760 a lot of different stuff 707 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,640 you know 708 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,839 um 709 00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,640 things i'm dealing with in life 710 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,119 that are not easy 711 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,720 my experience 712 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,119 my future 713 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,240 what i'm doing with my time 714 00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:55,599 it's all self 715 00:36:03,910 --> 00:35:59,520 uh reflection really it's a bad habit 716 00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,510 but 717 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:07,520 visible night school peace out 718 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,270 um 719 00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,430 yeah 720 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,280 so here we are you know like looking at 721 00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,040 all these papers and all this stuff and 722 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:27,200 it's like enough's enough this stuff 723 00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,800 happened and the government's just a 724 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:30,800 piece of for not saying anything to 725 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,550 and you know when people say trust the 726 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,920 government they're coming clean now you 727 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:43,920 got to be nice you got to play nice 728 00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,200 why is it on us to play nice 729 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:49,520 why isn't it on them 730 00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,230 take my federal taxes every year for 731 00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,480 something that they say i owed eight 732 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:01,040 years ago 733 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,430 you know 734 00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,200 anyone who's looked at this long enough 735 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,000 i would have to imagine is on board with 736 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,750 and i don't know that everyone's 737 00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,680 if there is you know just one clear-cut 738 00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,720 answer 739 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:22,400 and there there isn't 740 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,390 maybe in the different categories of 741 00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,240 this thing there's 742 00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,880 clear-cut answers 743 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:35,040 how fast was it flying where was it that 744 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,829 but the answer of why is it here 745 00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:43,599 and why 746 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:49,430 and is there something we're supposed to 747 00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:54,790 is it a burden placed on us 748 00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:57,040 or is it just simply like a breath of 749 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:03,990 these are the kind of questions we have 750 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,470 you can't really make a big deal about 751 00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:12,320 these things invading our airspace since 752 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,630 so if if you as a military don't have 753 00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:24,240 any sort of clue 754 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:27,280 on why that has happened for 80 years 755 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:38,069 you are useless 756 00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,069 but i will tell you i don't think that 757 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:42,079 is the case 758 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:50,230 i think they do have some sort of idea 759 00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,680 why wouldn't they kick these out they're 760 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:53,200 seeing them every day for years why 761 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,750 because either they can't 762 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:02,550 or 763 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,359 written on ufos from the government 764 00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:13,520 stated a couple of things 765 00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:15,680 they wanted to study how the phenomenon 766 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,720 could be possibly created 767 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:21,040 and used against your enemy is that what 768 00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:28,310 is that what we're seeing is that why 769 00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,040 they 770 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,760 can be seen by ryan graves every day for 771 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:36,069 and no one talks about it 772 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,119 none of the 773 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,040 the big boys 774 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,280 are dealing with it they just go oh yeah 775 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,839 that's the old cylinder in a box thing 776 00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:45,359 it's there every day don't worry about 777 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:46,240 it 778 00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,760 you know and this is what they play on 779 00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:56,960 us you don't know if it's just gonna 780 00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:59,680 blow up your ship right 781 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,400 it could be a threat 782 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,480 might not be a threat i don't know 783 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:08,950 it's only been 80 years how do we know 784 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,349 that's crap 785 00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:15,030 and i think for every year they don't 786 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,880 say anything to us the government that 787 00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:17,760 is 788 00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,000 and i don't need them to tell me it's 789 00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,440 true some people say you need the 790 00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:23,040 government to tell you this stuff is 791 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,319 real no i don't i want the government to 792 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:28,720 do their part as a human being and be 793 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:30,640 accountable for their actions over the 794 00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,069 that's what i want that's disclosure to 795 00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:38,480 me disclosure to me 796 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,910 if they could ask for forgiveness 797 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:51,430 i think 798 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:57,030 with that being said i'm gonna leave you 799 00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:00,720 guys for now if you go on my 800 00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,920 website 801 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,280 i encourage you to read this whole 802 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:05,040 report 803 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,750 they're talking about rock fragments i 804 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:12,960 should probably show you that before i 805 00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,570 go 806 00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,599 [Laughter] 807 00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,960 who knows right so here we go i fifteen 808 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,960 uh in addition to this it's not 809 00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:23,040 highlighted so it's just where my cursor 810 00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,839 is 811 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,200 if you can see it 812 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,280 in addition to this root belt writes 813 00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,040 that it was learned that chrisman and 814 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:31,200 doll had sent rock fragments to chicago 815 00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,640 publisher as a joke 816 00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:36,319 stating that the rock could be part of a 817 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,079 saucer 818 00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,760 he dull said the rock came from a flying 819 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,839 saucer because that's what the publisher 820 00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,560 wanted him to say 821 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,800 the publisher was the same man of course 822 00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:48,880 who had offered arnold the two hundred 823 00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:56,950 that's what i mean about what apple that 824 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,710 screw that guy that guy 825 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,150 you know doing hulk because they can do 826 00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,680 that all they want but what it really is 827 00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,920 is jealousy for a boring life that they 828 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,440 live 829 00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:14,720 and they're jealous that they're not 830 00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,680 open enough 831 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,440 to 832 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:21,599 possibly see something more beautiful 833 00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:22,319 than 834 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,349 or dimension however you look at it 835 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:36,079 to me doesn't matter 836 00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,000 three branches of establishment share 837 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,160 the responsibility for preventing any 838 00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,480 serious investigation of the ufo problem 839 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,079 the press the government primarily but 840 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:46,240 not exclusively the air force and the 841 00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:49,760 scientific fraternity until these three 842 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,800 influential groups unequivocally discard 843 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,800 their long-standing bias against 844 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,720 considering ufos worthy of serious 845 00:43:03,349 --> 00:42:58,880 attention this subject is bound to 846 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:09,430 so are we gonna still live in limbo 847 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,950 you know 848 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,550 and a lot of people say you don't need 849 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,599 the government for this and we don't 850 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,520 we definitely don't 851 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:21,040 we have people 852 00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:22,240 that are 853 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,119 smart enough and strong enough 854 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,599 to do things and to get things done 855 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,079 without them you think some of these 856 00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,760 reports and papers were made with the 857 00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,839 government's help that are a hell of a 858 00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:35,839 lot more detail than anything the 859 00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:38,640 government has ever put together 860 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,270 right 861 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:49,190 i'm sick 862 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,480 and tired 863 00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:55,829 pussyfooting around this subject excuse 864 00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:03,750 uh trisha invisible college is the book 865 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,640 by jacquez vale it's a great book 866 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,640 um and i've only 867 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:11,280 read not even a quarter of it so 868 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,480 um 869 00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,240 i can't wait to finish it and there's 870 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,920 just like so much material and there's 871 00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:17,680 so many books it's really hard to choose 872 00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,640 which one to do or read 873 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,000 because there's only so much time in the 874 00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,480 day right 875 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,800 and 876 00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,040 is what it is 877 00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,000 go back to this yeah there's just a lot 878 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:34,319 i didn't go over yet sorry so you gotta 879 00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:37,520 get me for a little bit longer um 880 00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,440 reporting sighting in the fragments said 881 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:41,599 to have been found in the abundance on 882 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,560 maury island beach who just said that 883 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:47,040 somebody just said maury island the chat 884 00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,800 i thought uh maybe not samples of 885 00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,720 alleged saucer fragments were displayed 886 00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,319 in arnold intrigue because of certain 887 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:56,240 similarities the boise idaho report of 888 00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,760 july 8 889 00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,000 decided to ask united airlines pilot e.j 890 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,640 smith to join him in tacoma 891 00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:05,040 blah blah following this meeting 892 00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,119 peculiar things began to happen a 893 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,040 reporter from one of the local papers 894 00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:11,440 phoned the two pilots in arnold's room 895 00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:16,829 oh 896 00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,230 i don't know 897 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:24,079 all right let me get to 898 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:31,589 about 899 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,480 arizona and new mexico 900 00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,880 the new mexico sighting made by dr lapaz 901 00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:39,280 himself right 902 00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:41,119 cool 903 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,720 you almost need something like that you 904 00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,640 always hear well they wanted me because 905 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,119 i wasn't into ufos at all 906 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:49,440 well that's probably stupid 907 00:45:58,829 --> 00:45:55,349 again something 908 00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:58,839 especially said in his book uh invisible 909 00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,680 college he's like that's talking about 910 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:04,079 the condon report 911 00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,440 he was 912 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:09,910 you know the kind of report whatever 913 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:12,720 they made a effort to get people and 914 00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:15,520 scientists involved that really haven't 915 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,960 thought about this stuff a day in their 916 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,760 life 917 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,839 right and that's all well and fine but 918 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,920 guess what you're not taking in the 919 00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:23,680 decades of 920 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,440 sightings historical data 921 00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:28,960 witnesses 922 00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,359 into your research so what you're 923 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:33,359 essentially doing 924 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:34,160 is 925 00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:38,240 all over again with different people 926 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:43,510 you know 927 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:46,720 um let's say at my job or my office if i 928 00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,880 want to study an issue 929 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:50,800 right 930 00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:53,280 i'm not going to 931 00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:55,119 not take into account 932 00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,119 everything else involved 933 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,280 or if i already did a report on this 934 00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,599 nine weeks ago i'm not gonna 935 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,680 go in fresh and do the same thing again 936 00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,520 i'm gonna use that 937 00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,680 first report 938 00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,440 and the things that transpired then to 939 00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:11,599 make that report i'm gonna take that and 940 00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,550 it's like and you wonder why the 941 00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,359 government says or whatever hasn't 942 00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,960 figured anything out it's because 943 00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:24,960 they're idiots 944 00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:26,240 keep getting 945 00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:28,000 people who don't know anything about 946 00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,950 definitely 947 00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:36,319 now thankfully 948 00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,839 i think louis elizondo is 949 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,920 um an exception 950 00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:42,800 right 951 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,240 because he didn't know much about this 952 00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,680 stuff and 953 00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:47,920 they hired him and look at how far he's 954 00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:53,109 so 955 00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,710 um let me just quick go through this 956 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:02,559 paper to see if there's any cool 957 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:06,640 graphics i can show you 958 00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,230 again join me tomorrow it's starting 959 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,400 early tomorrow actually at 10 a.m 960 00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:18,480 central time with quantum witch we're 961 00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,480 gonna have some dream talk i've had a 962 00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,960 lot of crazy dreams 963 00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:24,720 but we're not regulated it's just that 964 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,750 um 965 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:31,520 and there's a lot of cases in this paper 966 00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,640 too as you can see 967 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:36,319 um we have 968 00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:40,240 case 402 5 4 74. this is all in here 969 00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:43,359 elkhorn wisconsin hmm 970 00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,549 i'll have oh that's the july 7th one oh 971 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,559 that's case then i know that 972 00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:54,400 for sure no but that was milwaukee this 973 00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,390 more wisconsin eagle wisconsin cool 974 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,359 maybe i should go look them up 975 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,200 take a road trip 976 00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:06,720 they're probably dead but maybe they got 977 00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,359 some family or something 978 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:12,720 maybe a piece of a saucer somewhere 979 00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,520 who 980 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,839 knows 981 00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,440 little drawing 982 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,480 cool 983 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:20,800 here's some pictures 984 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:26,150 this one you see what i mean it's like 985 00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:27,280 black and white what are you supposed to 986 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:30,240 do 987 00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,270 case number cross reference the section 988 00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:41,280 page number is cool 989 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:44,000 and you put a lot into this you know and 990 00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:45,440 it's so 991 00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:48,800 interesting to me that this wasn't 992 00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,230 it's like the private citizens and 993 00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:58,720 everything do such a better job anyways 994 00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:03,030 these are all 995 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,710 look at that 996 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:21,430 all over the place 997 00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:23,109 indianapolis dallas portland san 998 00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:26,319 francisco new york louisville cincinnati 999 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:32,870 los angeles 1000 00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,829 so 1001 00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:40,400 yeah 1002 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:43,119 if you're looking for something to do 1003 00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:44,640 i got it for you 1004 00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:50,150 oh and there's a lot of 1005 00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,280 people here 1006 00:50:54,060 --> 00:50:53,440 listed that we can spend a bunch of time 1007 00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:54,070 looking into 1008 00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,359 [Laughter] 1009 00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:56,800 if we're bored 1010 00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,359 so yeah 1011 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:05,190 which movie are you guys talking about 1012 00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,630 watched ufos the secret history on 1013 00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,640 amazon prime this morning super good 1014 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:14,559 says there was a line between media 1015 00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,240 acceptance and media ridicule 1016 00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:20,480 yeah um 1017 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,119 the media was definitely all about it at 1018 00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:26,160 first um and then not so much and one 1019 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,470 i got a good idea 1020 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,270 possibly a part of the debunking 1021 00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:41,200 program 1022 00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:47,430 conducted on debunking which is proven 1023 00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,319 it's a proven thing in a document 1024 00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:51,920 they've recommended 1025 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,800 a school that people can come and learn 1026 00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,359 how to debunk these things 1027 00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,720 and it's not like 1028 00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:00,480 they use the words 1029 00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:03,599 uh find out what they really are 1030 00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,150 so when you use the word debunk 1031 00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:13,920 you're in essence saying that these 1032 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,349 right 1033 00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,480 or you wouldn't have to debunk anything 1034 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,720 you could simply have a school where 1035 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,400 they learn to figure out what these 1036 00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,400 things really are 1037 00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,480 you know whether it be a plane or 1038 00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:33,839 whatever else 1039 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,960 no but they use the word debunk 1040 00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:39,359 and that to me says shit's real we got 1041 00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,750 and how do you do that 1042 00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,760 first of all you get the media on your 1043 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,839 side 1044 00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,400 now the government has definite i don't 1045 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:54,319 know if they do now but in my research 1046 00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:55,440 i'm sure they do 1047 00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,160 definite programs where they plug in cia 1048 00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:00,640 operatives in all the different media 1049 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,790 to peddle their influence so if you're 1050 00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,040 telling me that they didn't influence 1051 00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:12,160 media to i don't know maybe 1052 00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:15,760 get in their college debunking program 1053 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,230 because if anyone doesn't believe 1054 00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:24,480 or care 1055 00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:27,440 i should say about the truth 1056 00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:29,280 uh 1057 00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:33,200 msm could probably be you know 1058 00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:40,470 so they would 1059 00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,680 definitely 1060 00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,760 not mind 1061 00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:45,920 i'm saying this stuff is weird and not 1062 00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:47,920 real 1063 00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:50,960 you can see it now like dude lou is just 1064 00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,839 on fox saying biological effects yes 1065 00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:56,079 humans these people who have observed 1066 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,670 hello 1067 00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:07,270 what what do you need to know do you 1068 00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,839 actually need to see a saucer and have 1069 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:11,760 it burn the out of you for you to 1070 00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:14,640 believe it if that is the case i pity 1071 00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,990 you know 1072 00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:27,910 a video 1073 00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,470 i had a little bit of a high horse today 1074 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:37,200 huh a lot of talking 1075 00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:40,000 um passionate talking hopefully it was 1076 00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:41,119 good 1077 00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,799 hopefully you enjoyed it got something 1078 00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:44,160 from it 1079 00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:48,710 tomorrow 1080 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:51,280 again we have a full day so we have 1081 00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:54,000 quantum which 10 am central standard 1082 00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:55,680 time pretty early 1083 00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,799 um then we're gonna have ufo joe 1084 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:00,240 um at 1085 00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,280 about 12 15 central standard time 1086 00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:05,040 he's going to come on him um we're going 1087 00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:06,960 to talk about a couple crashes that he 1088 00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,440 learned about recently and anything else 1089 00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,760 that we decide to discuss he's a great 1090 00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,799 guy 1091 00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,319 um really enjoyed him he was actually 1092 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,000 one of my first guests when i didn't 1093 00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:18,000 have any of this fancy 1094 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:21,040 stuff going on and i was really just 1095 00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,400 learning 1096 00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:24,079 what the hell to do and how to do it he 1097 00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:26,319 was nice enough to come on and and be a 1098 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,839 guest and 1099 00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,240 um i'll never forget that he took that 1100 00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,839 chance on me and did that he didn't have 1101 00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,799 to 1102 00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,799 um so 1103 00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:36,559 bringing them back we're going to chat 1104 00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:37,760 for a bit 1105 00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,200 and then after him 1106 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:41,440 we got project unity on 1107 00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,400 um 1108 00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,000 for about an hour if you are not 1109 00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,319 familiar just go to my videos they're 1110 00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,160 upcoming and you can find the details on 1111 00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,000 the different people uh within those 1112 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,480 videos i have not made one yet for uh 1113 00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,760 ufo joe 1114 00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:56,000 um so look for that that'll be coming i 1115 00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:57,440 literally just talked to him before i 1116 00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,109 peace 1117 00:56:05,710 --> 00:56:05,359 um just a couple crashes yeah no big 1118 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:05,720 deal 1119 00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,160 [Laughter] 1120 00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,000 uh i'm not 1121 00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,589 i'm not hurting um if if i get like 1122 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,839 teared up or something or i'm you know a 1123 00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:23,440 little emotional that's just who i am 1124 00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,109 you know i've lived my life 1125 00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,599 you know playing off of emotions 1126 00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:35,359 so 1127 00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:36,799 in the moment 1128 00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:39,680 sure yeah it's 1129 00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,240 it's hurtful to think about that all the 1130 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,640 not me or just everyone who's been 1131 00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:46,319 through this stuff 1132 00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:47,760 and they don't get any sort of 1133 00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:50,160 explanation on the psychology aspect of 1134 00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,040 this 1135 00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,839 they can if they put it you know if they 1136 00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:55,359 put that goal within themselves and go 1137 00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:56,839 search for 1138 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:00,559 it um but it's also hard to sift through 1139 00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,520 all the garbage especially with that 1140 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:05,200 because you can really quick 1141 00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:07,760 quickly be steered off the right path 1142 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:13,670 so 1143 00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,960 you know when 1144 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,040 i get emotional or anything it's not 1145 00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,760 for me it's it's for everybody 1146 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:21,599 everybody's gone through this stuff you 1147 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:22,880 know 1148 00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:26,400 is 1149 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:31,270 it could have been a lot worse let's say 1150 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,240 that 1151 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,240 you know 1152 00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:35,760 and it's been a lot worse for other 1153 00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:37,760 people 1154 00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:42,720 burned literally 1155 00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,920 fighter pilots have been shot at 1156 00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,440 you know 1157 00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:50,160 i had a dream come true 1158 00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:52,400 um the circumstance around it you know 1159 00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,319 what transpired was unfortunate but it 1160 00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:56,000 was not 1161 00:58:02,870 --> 00:57:58,480 anything that i didn't get over along 1162 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,309 so 1163 00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,109 i think whatever it was maybe just 1164 00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:11,200 you know like mr valet says in that book 1165 00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,720 invisible college it 1166 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,559 you know the experiences seem to set 1167 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,799 people off on different trajectories of 1168 00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,880 their life and and give them certain 1169 00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:20,640 missions right or make them feel like 1170 00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,359 they're on a mission and 1171 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:25,760 whatever it was that's 1172 00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,480 that's what's happening to me 1173 00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,040 i mean 1174 00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:34,870 done 1175 00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:39,440 music in my hometown for 20 years 1176 00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:41,599 and i just you know coronavirus had a 1177 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:45,040 lot to do with that i guess but 1178 00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,510 and 1179 00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:51,839 i'm not probably gonna go back i'm still 1180 00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:54,079 gonna play music obviously but like that 1181 00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:55,599 life and that community and all that 1182 00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:56,640 stuff 1183 00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,670 you know the sighting completely changed 1184 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,079 me 1185 00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:08,309 um and if 1186 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,480 for the better or worse yet i don't know 1187 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,640 but it is what it is and i'll just do my 1188 00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,400 best with the 1189 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:16,319 um 1190 00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,280 resources i've been given 1191 00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:24,309 uh toby yeah you can actually look at my 1192 00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:25,680 twitter page i think i posted that 1193 00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,599 document maybe a few days ago you can 1194 00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:29,599 look at it you know is it 1195 00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:32,960 it looks pretty legit to me so um you'll 1196 00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:36,480 have to take that for what you want 1197 00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:41,670 yeah so be good stay in love 1198 00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:43,520 uh 1199 00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:44,960 scott thank you as always for your 1200 00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,319 support i do appreciate that very much 1201 00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:50,480 every little bit helps 1202 00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:52,000 um 1203 00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:53,520 especially when my wife sees what i'm 1204 00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:54,460 spending my time on 1205 00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:57,359 [Laughter] 1206 01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,559 like oh yeah at least you get a little 1207 01:00:01,430 --> 01:00:00,640 money and there 1208 01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:01,440 if 1209 01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:03,200 otherwise it's like yeah i do this for 1210 01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:05,280 free why 1211 01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:07,440 nobody understands that 1212 01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,880 um 1213 01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,559 all right so 1214 01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:13,200 yeah stop by tomorrow we got a whole day 1215 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:14,319 psych 1216 01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:19,270 i'm too new to be a legend but maybe one 1217 01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,359 day 1218 01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:24,000 you guys are legendary in your own right 1219 01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,680 for being here putting up with me 1220 01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:27,119 listening to me 1221 01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:30,240 um i appreciate y'all love y'all 1222 01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:37,030 tomorrow so stay tuned 1223 01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:38,640 um 1224 01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:40,720 yeah if anything comes up or you need to 1225 01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:42,640 ask me about something just find me on 1226 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:45,520 instagram or twitter or whatever 1227 01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:47,920 and i'll try to get back to you and 1228 01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:50,240 right away so i guess my recommendation 1229 01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:53,440 for today is take a look at this report 1230 01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:57,440 a report of the ufo wave of 1947 and 1231 01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,559 get the book invisible college 1232 01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,319 invisible college 1233 01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:04,559 if you haven't read that yet 1234 01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:05,680 read it 1235 01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,400 together 1236 01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,319 because i think there's a lot more truth 1237 01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:12,480 in that book than anything we've been 1238 01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:13,839 seeing lately 1239 01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:15,920 so 1240 01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:16,960 all right